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Remove Sago?
Is it better to remove oasago2 ?
1.yes[ 8 ][57.14%]
2.no[ 6 ][42.86%]
Answers total: 14
a_clownDate: Thursday, 2010-01-28, 8:12 PM | Message # 1
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Hello,

in my opinion sago should be removed from the maplist because of:

1.It has only one YA and 7 RL, this map is fun BUT not more! You dont need to time items, nothing. Just point and shoot.
2.Some ppl have low fps here because of the massive brush-amount. This map even has unseeable doors...its more like a model.
3.This is the most popular map in oa, if you keep this map in, ppl will play it only(like 80% sago). IMO this is boring.
4.This map is messy in 4on4, but thats my personal opinion.

Dont get me wrong, i like sago too and i had some fun on sago smile

a_clown


 
MIOWDate: Thursday, 2010-01-28, 11:34 PM | Message # 2
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I think oasago2 may be improved, at least with item layout.

There're also 2 remakes of this maps which can be used:
oaN http://allowdl.com/baseoa/oaN.pk3
HDsagoalpha link removed


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Message edited by ^6R^MIOW - Saturday, 2010-02-27, 3:56 PM
 
a_clownDate: Friday, 2010-01-29, 0:46 AM | Message # 3
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Quote (^6R^MIOW)
There're also 2 remakes of this maps which can be used:
oaN http://allowdl.com/baseoa/oaN.pk3

this map is great - add this to the mappool and delete oasago2 biggrin


 
DarkalDate: Friday, 2010-01-29, 10:33 AM | Message # 4
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this map is great - add this to the mappool and delete oasago2 biggrin

Hahaha, personaly, I would like to say Why not ? Moreover, your arguments are great ! I didn't tested oaN remake (BTW this map remaked by oaN is called oaN ???)
=> At least about FPS problems, we should replace to OASAGO2J.
=> To make the league more spicy we should remove it.

But, I think this map is perfect for game-play... May be there is only 1 YA, but that's the point !! Who has the YA has an advantage ! And RL are more difficult to mastering than RG, who is more difficult to get in OASAGO2... I think it is very very good for strategy display and it is not so bad if 75% of matches will be played on OASAGO2... Increasingly, I am 99% sûre that it will not be chosen so often as you think.

Or we can remove OASAGO2 only for playoff matches ?

BTW, lets wait some weeks to see this poll result.

 
TinyDate: Friday, 2010-01-29, 5:34 PM | Message # 5
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Well, in my opinion ( not very important one biggrin ) this map is really nice and most of the players know this one better than all the others, so if you remove this one, a lot of teams will have some difficulties. However, it could be fun to have a challenge without sago2 ( could be interesting too ).
So, i prefer waiting for the results of the poll wink
 
a_clownDate: Friday, 2010-01-29, 5:42 PM | Message # 6
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Because ppl love this, they will never vote "yes". It was just a try smile .
In oan: 2YA(base, enemybase) and 1MH(middle) This will make the game more interessting, you have to time and fight for MH AND maybe you can time enemy-YA.
I dont really like oasago2j(well ok, my name is on the mapscreen...it HAS TO BE GOOD sad ), oan looks better and has a better performance.
IMO oan is better for 4on4 too, because it has a smaller flagroom, and you really have to control mid :).


 
MIOWDate: Friday, 2010-01-29, 7:00 PM | Message # 7
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(BTW this map remaked by oaN is called oaN ???)

Weird, but it's true http://www.team-oan.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8
This map at least deserves to be added to mappool, if not to replace the original version.

If players still want original oasago2, I think it would be a good compromise to make version of oasago2j with improved item layout and restrict often selection of this map somehow.


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StrzelbaDate: Friday, 2010-01-29, 9:35 PM | Message # 8
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it would be interesting and motivating to learn other maps so i vote yes. But there is also second side of this thing that other clans will start bitching about why sago is deleted and that oa league without most popular oa map is senseless. so i think u should inform all oa clans about this pool, let them show their oppinion:P
 
TinyDate: Saturday, 2010-01-30, 8:57 AM | Message # 9
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I tried the oan version of sago and i really liked it, that's a very interessing map, i think we should not remove the original version but we should add some differents one ( like the oan one tongue ). What do you think about it?
 
a_clownDate: Saturday, 2010-01-30, 12:25 PM | Message # 10
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What do you think about it?

Yes, i like this idea! This map needs much more skill, it is just better smile .


 
RMFDate: Saturday, 2010-01-30, 10:58 PM | Message # 11
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Or allow oasago only once per round? Idk exactly if clans need to choose the map some time before the match, or if they can during, but if they have to before I'd say the first clan to ask one of the admins gets the map and the rest has to play other maps.

Message edited by RMF2490 - Saturday, 2010-01-30, 10:58 PM
 
PopeJoDate: Monday, 2010-02-01, 11:10 AM | Message # 12
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I'd like to try the oaN.pk3 map in game. looks awesome.

 
protiDate: Monday, 2010-02-01, 7:08 PM | Message # 13
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I voted for "yes".

Btw. Timing of YA on this map is senseless, because it doesnt provide you any advantage, enemy with LG holds his crosshair on your body for 2 seconds and youre dead or incapable to continue your war path wink

For me, that map is campful, fast, small, with no items, with no PUs...

*Just my opinion*


\o/ \o/
 
MIOWDate: Wednesday, 2010-02-03, 9:29 AM | Message # 14
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Two more remakes:
oasago2 GoD|Birthday Edition (oasago2f9_god) http://oa-cl.ucoz.org/maps/z_oasago2f9_god-final.pk3 (http://god-oa.de/smf/index.php?topic=1085.0, http://god-oa.de/smf/index.php?topic=1098.0)
oasago_simple http://www.mediafire.com/?ibntzmy4kmt (http://openarena.ws/board/index.php?topic=3501.0)


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Zero_hunDate: Sunday, 2010-02-14, 11:03 AM | Message # 15
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Never played oasago simple. About a fast try my opinion wouldnt be usefull.

About both, hdsagoalpha and oan(ps2ctf2 or whats the other name of it.) are brilliant. Really playable, really enjoyable, really tactical. Both should be in. About the god edition, i dunno. The basic is the same, just 2 more corridors. Well, ive just played on it once, so i dont really know exactly. I think if sago is in list, godsago should be in too, but if you choose to remove it, dont allow godsago neither.

The only thing why i would say no for sago is, that then noone would choose other maps. No sense to make a 10name long maplist, only sagosagosago would be played.

ps. i know my english sucks

 
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