Vast majority of OA maps are just bad.

It's actually the most tough problem with promoting OA - it's too similar to Q3

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2. the maplist is still horrible (HYDRONEX !!!!11) and way too big. how are we to train all that? we cant train 4 gametypes on more then 25 different maps!

I also don't want to play on all 4 challenges .... I don't like insta and all-rockets ... I heard also from some other clans that they don't want to play because of this rule and the maps ...

Why could be the league not like the first one?

--- we have 2 months to play selection matches. Every clan must play 16 matches.
=> about 8 matches per month.. It's really not soooooo much.

--- There is NO player who can train an ALL mods ALL maps. So it's fair. That's why it could show different adaptation skills. The clan will not win because they play 24/24 in same map, same mod. The clan will win because they are versatile and can adapt their skills to different maps and different mods. Lets try it Because only CTF challenge on 4 different maps is really like "who play much on CTF every days win"... I want a league where really different skills is needed. Moreover, matches will start in more than 1 month.. You have time to practice a little bit (enough) to know to play some maps.

--- Ok I remove HYDRONEX :-)

well, in my opinion 5 maps should be enough for each gametype. ihmo a league is about skill and having well organized matches.

bleee
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není vám to trapný,
asi ne, vy idioti,
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kdo je tady chytrej,
nikdooo,
ale všichni poslouchají HIPHOP !!!
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Thats just one text from my favourite song.. just ignore it

As for gametypes, it's a pity to play something we have no pleasure playing.

by spicy, you mean random? no, it is not easy and fast to "master" a map. there are a lot of different tactics you can play. but in order to train some tactics, you need to know the map very well and what strategy fits on what kind of opponent can only be learned if you play much on it with different opponents. you want people to play "2 in base, 2 attack" on all maps? or even worse: just random storming and mindless chaotic fights, like on open ctf servers? there will be only simple and low forms of teamplay, if you don't allow teams to concentrate on few, but good maps.

it is not just my personal opinion, that "more maps" don't make it spicy, but more random. if you look at big leagues, like, clanbase, bibs, esl ladders and cups, kuh3liga, ... they all have a (very) small map pool. you simply can't develop sophisticated strategies, when the maps are uncommon. and its not only my opinion, but I dare to say, the widely held opinion of all leagues and players out there. can you name any other league, besides this one, with +25 different maps in the pool? ... this is typical for OA .. ignore all of q3 and ql, and act like OA is a new world of its own ... as if in more then 10 years of q3 history, everyone did the leagues wrong and OA is about the one q3 clone, that "sets things right" ... [... insert endless ranting about the many bugs in OA here ...]

..but, this all sounds way too negative.

besides being forced to play 4 gametypes and having very many maps, I think this league is pretty professional and very well planned. I think it will work out well and teams will have fun and fair fights

Only 8 maps.