So about this tool, I dunno where was it decided to be enabled. We are sorry for this problem, it will be soon disabled or explained how does it works, and may be set, at least, to 20sec of delay in case of, only, abusive camping.

No. The anti camp system was implemented because of the last matchs complaints.

The settings are currently 9 seconds to trigger the system, and in a range which is about a little more than the half of the oasago2 rail spot, and hurts you 40 HP per 2 or 3 seconds.

There is no prevention of this system if you chat. There was one in an earlier release of E+, but people abused of binds to avoid the anticamp, so now it triggers even if you talk.

Anyway, I hardly can see how you would get the time to talk in a real match. The system settings were thought in relation to real matchs, not friendly or testing matchs and such were, anyway, there's no real deal so there's no problem if you get killed.

Please test it in real conditions. For the moment, Ive received only good feedbacks, but if you have some ideas to tweak these settings, feel free. But please test it in real conditions.

I meant in friendly or test matchs.

Yes then please send me the demos, I will review them asap.

Of course, I mean I tweak them, but I need some suggestions.

I can tweak the time (by range of 2-3 seconds), the area of effect and the damages.

Anyway, I don't think the time of 12 seconds is good. For now the time currently set has been proved to be ok (while the 12 seconds of the rules are only empirical, there's no test or observation to further prove that it's a good value).

About the area, I'm thinking of indeed shrinking it a little, but I need testers. If you want to organize a testing session...

No option for chat, it was how the mod behaved as a whole in older versions (no anticamp when chatting, now it always triggers even if chatting).

It does not limit : it warns by hurting you to urge you to move. It doesn't kill instantly although it could. That's the goal.

I can be a tester, actually, i just give my opinion about the area zone, if a defencer ( in team play that's usual ) stay at the same zone while moving a lot though ( right and left, up and down ), he gets killed, and have to move a lot not to get killed.
One problem i saw is on ps37ctf, when you're sniping on the bridge, you can stay alive because of the anti-camp, if you want to move, you got 2 choices ( or 3 actually ):
- You jumped over the bridge, but that's not really what you want to do...
- You go into the ennemy base, but that's suicide...
- You get back into your base, but then the ennemy can get into yours too...
So, on this map, sorry for the word, but it sucks a bit
On the over maps, i think if the timer was a little bit longer, and same for "camp zone", it would be better

I need more than one tester, but 8 persons to test a full game.

What you describe is camping. It's not because the player is moving from 10 pixels that he doesn't do camping. If you stay on the same spot for a long time, that's what you do, no matter if you are moving a little or not.

Normal : if you stay on the bridge for more than 9 seconds, you are camping. Anyway you can stay on the bridge, you just have to move along. If you stand on the edge and rail any player you see, that's normal that the anti camp triggers.

As I said, the timer was raised for 2 more seconds. Please test again if your tests were done more than 2 days ago.

Having a too high timer is as useless as having none.

Imagine you stay at a place for 4sec, then an ennemy coming, sometime I have more that 8sec railgun duel xD

I know, there can be a problem in close range gunfights, but I think the time is ok, maybe the area is to be shortened. But as I tested again myself, I couldn't trigger the anticamp in any gunfights, because you nevertheless move during the gunfight, usually enough to not trigger the anticamp (or you get killed before anyway).

But we need more testers connected at the same time on a server to test more.

Here is the classic discussion about camping, i really think, team acts and stupid camping are different.
You can prohibited stupid camping, though, you shouldn't do that in some leagues, because you just stop a lot of teamplay possibilities

That's why this anti-camp is really tolerant : seriously, Ive yet to see a case where someone get really punished without being abusively camping. Even players that were once totally against the anti-camp are currently convinced by the system.

I would agree if it prevented you to defend. Here it's not : when you stay 10 seconds on the same spot, no matter what you were planning : it's an obvious case of camping. Count 10 seconds : you will see how long this is.

I often read campers saying me "Idiot, base camp is strategy" so everybody has to know that, in OpenArena, when experimented players talk about CAMPING, we DO NOT talk about Base Camping which is not "staying on a position, on a spot" ; but run over the base, which is totally different. Base Camping not means Camping in the Base !!!!!!!

I agree, but here I agreed to implement the anti-camping, mainly to avoid complaints, and to avoid uninteresting matchs, where each team just stay camped at their positions. Such excessive camping is not suitable for an event like this league.